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«Ситуация очень редкая, - говорит Марина Мишурис (ФлексБанк). – Вспоминается только один подобный вариант. Тогда продавец и покупатель, как выяснилось, были в родственных отношениях – и появилось подозрение, что сделка купли-продажи на самом деле фиктивная, а средства будут использованы на личные цели. Кредит в результате выдан не был, и проверить эту догадку эмпирически не удалось. А вообщем, отсутствие родственных отношений является неотклонимым условием для ипотечного кредита». «С такими случаями мы не сталкивались», - подтверждает Елена Ковырзина, директор департамента кредитования розничного бизнеса и МСБ Абсолют Банка. Вкупе с тем эксперт соглашается, что ежели предположить, что обладатель квартиры и «покупатель» условились таким макаром обмануть банк и получить дешевый кредит, отследить эту схему тяжело. Хотя в данном случае у банка остается залог, на который в случае просрочки по кредиту можно обратить взыскание

В общем, в большинстве случаев подобные аферы строятся на том, что покупатель и продавец – родственники. И разработка защиты банков обычно предельно проста – не кредитовать сделки, в каких между сторонами имеется родство.
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В отличие от иных приведенных в данной статье приемов (которые, строго говоря, мошенничество, но на бытовом уровне вроде как понятны и извинительны – ну, приписал для себя человек тыщ 15 каждомесячной заработной платы) это уже самая настоящая уголовная ответственность. Сущность сводится к тому, чтобы скрыть факт того, что квартира находится под обременением – и получить под нее второй (а если получится – то и третий, четвертый…) кредит. Честно скажем, о подобном мы слышали не достаточно – но в интернете какие-то отголоски найти удалось.

Большинство наших профессионалов дружно заявили, что это в принципе нереально. Как справедливо отметила Сабина Хамитова, управляющий департамента ипотеки компании «Домус финанс», любые сделки с недвижимостью подлежат неотклонимой гос регистрации и при ипотеке в Единый государственный реестр прав (ЕГРП) вносится пометка об обременении. А банк, выдавая ипотечный кредит, обязательно проверит юридическую чистоту – в том числе возьмет выписку из ЕГРП.

Однако Евгений Вальков («Экспресс-Кредит») сообщил, что один раз встречался с попыткой подобного мошенничества: она строилась на том, что свидетельство о принадлежности и остальные документы из ЕГРП были подделаны. Соответственно, пресечено мошенничество оказалось тогда, когда сотрудники банка самостоятельно обратились в Росреестр.

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Вопрос о распространенности подобной диковинки на рынке опять вызвал противоречия. Ирина Кажикина («Релайт-Недвижимость») категорически заявила, что информация устаревшая: подобные фокусы были распространены до кризиса 2008 года, но сейчас их нет. А в пресс-службе Сбербанка напомнили, что банк держит под контролем не только лишь сумму, указанную в отчете о оценке, но и в договоре купли-продажи. Прочие специалисты оказались наиболее аккуратными в оценках: самым частым ответом оказалось «нечасто, но бывает».

Примечательно, что с инициативой «приукрасить» отчет к заемщику время от времени обращаются сами оценщики: мол, давайте нам 3000 рублей, и мы нарисуем вам прекрасно. Банки, естественно, фильтруют оценочные компании, с которыми работают. «Отчет от заемщика предоставляется лишь от аккредитованной банком оценочной компании, - говорит Сергей Ситин, начальник управления розничного кредитования Промсвязьбанка. – Аккредитация значит, что банк проверил деятельность компании, в том числе и ее репутацию, и доверяет ей определять стоимость закладываемого в банк недвижимого имущества. Оценочные компании, обычно, дорожат своей репутацией и стараются не допускать предоставление недостоверных данных своим партнерам».

И все же такое случается. Общение потенциального заемщика происходит вовсе не с руководителем замечательной аккредитованной компании, а с рядовым исполнителем, и о чем они там условятся – бог известие.

А самое любопытное – предстоящая судьба отчета. Дело в том, что необходимость в нем – требование закона «Об ипотеке», и банку такой документ не особенно-то нужен. Потому, получив отчет об оценке (с любыми цифрами – хоть действительными, хоть завышенными), банк обычно оценивает квартиру своими силами. Проще говоря, его сотрудник открывает базу данных по продажам квартир и находит там самые дешевые из аналогичных вариантов. И в завышении цены отказывает. Так что отлично и банку (знает истинную стоимость своего залога), и оценщику (получил доп «гонорар»). Не очень отлично, правда, заемщику – потратил 3000 руб. совсем зря. Но не нужно было взятку давать!
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Банковских продуктов существует масса – об этом сейчас дети малые знают. И также всем понятно, чем ипотечные кредиты лучше всех прочих – они одни из самых прибыльных для заемщика. И ставки минимальные (по сравнению с прочими), и сроки самые длинноватые. Потому те граждане, которым необходимы просто деньги (т.е. потребительский кредит), пробуют получить ипотечный.

Рассказывая об этой теме, почти все банки выразили искреннее недоумение: вот у нас есть нецелевые кредиты под залог имеющейся недвижимости, таким методом совсем легально можно получить средства на что угодно! Это, конечно, правда, относительно этих продуктов справедливо все то, что сказано абзацем выше – денег дадут меньше и под условия похуже. Поэтому стимул получить кредит якобы на приобретение недвижимости все-же существует.

«Ситуация чрезвычайно редчайшая, - говорит Марина Мишурис (ФлексБанк). – Вспоминается лишь один схожий вариант. Тогда продавец и клиент, как выяснилось, были в схожих отношениях – и возникло подозрение, что сделка купли-продажи по сути фиктивная, а средства будут использованы на личные цели. Кредит в итоге выдан не был, и проверить эту гипотезу эмпирически не удалось. А вообщем, отсутствие схожих отношений является неотклонимым условием для ипотечного кредита». «С такими вариантами мы не сталкивались», - подтверждает Лена Ковырзина, директор департамента кредитования розничного бизнеса и МСБ Абсолют Банка. Совместно с тем эксперт соглашается, что если предположить, что обладатель квартиры и «покупатель» условились таким макаром обмануть банк и получить дешевый кредит, отследить эту схему тяжело. Хотя в данном случае у банка остается залог, на который в случае просрочки по кредиту можно направить взыскание

В общем, в большинстве случаев подобные аферы строятся на том, что клиент и продавец – родственники. И технология защиты банков обычно максимально ординарна – не кредитовать сделки, в каких меж сторонами имеется родство.
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В отличие от иных приведенных в данной статье приемов (которые, строго говоря, мошенничество, но на бытовом уровне вроде как понятны и извинительны – ну, приписал себе человек тыщ 15 каждомесячной заработной платы) это уже самая реальная уголовщина. Суть сводится к тому, чтоб скрыть факт того, что квартира находится под обременением – и получить под нее 2-ой (а если получится – то и третий, четвертый…) кредит. Честно скажем, о подобном мы слышали не достаточно – но в вебе какие-то отголоски отыскать удалось.

Большая часть наших экспертов дружно заявили, что это в принципе нереально. Как справедливо отметила Сабина Хамитова, руководитель департамента ипотеки компании «Домус финанс», любые сделки с недвижимостью подлежат неотклонимой государственной регистрации и при ипотеке в Единый муниципальный реестр прав (ЕГРП) вносится пометка об обременении. А банк, выдавая ипотечный кредит, обязательно проверит юридическую чистоту – в том числе возьмет выписку из ЕГРП.

Но Евгений Вальков («Экспресс-Кредит») сказал, что один раз встречался с попыткой подобного мошенничества: она строилась на том, что свидетельство о собственности и остальные документы из ЕГРП были подделаны. Соответственно, пресечено мошенничество оказалось тогда, когда сотрудники банка без помощи других обратились в Росреестр.

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